I wouldn't want to start a C37 thread since it was made after 1975.

i don't understand what being after 1975 has to do with anything

Was there a rumor about Wade doing 2001 a while back?

i tried to get 20 for that one but only managed to get 9
so it died

1975 was the last year without video games.

I thought you'd have better luck with 2001. It seems as if they saw a lot of play in their day.

I bought 3 of them in 15 months and only one had a decent playfield.

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start a thread and see if there is any interest. you might be surprised, it is a popular title that has some wear issues so enough people might want one. i would grab one if he did it.

i wish 2001 would get done. those kickout hole really hammered the pf. that one you posted dave is the nicest one i ever saw.
i don't think wade has anything lined up after atlantis.

I sold the other two 2001's and kept the best playfield. Don't need one myself. I assumed it was a somewhat popular title that folks would want a playfield for. This could be one of those games where they didn't want to sink that much money into a game.

Purchased Atlantis last night and Wade said he doesn't know what playfield is after that. Guess it's up to to us. What will it be? My vote would be Dodge City.

It would be helpful if repro backglasses and plastics were available for titles getting repro playfields. Then can make truly nice examples. That's what's been nice about the recent ones, as the glasses and plastics have also been available, so can complete the hat trick.

So among the titles with glasses and plastics already available, which ones would most benefit from a playfield? That might be interesting to explore. Abra Ca Dabra, for example...

It's a game. I did a Sing Along playfield swap with the plastics not available yet. Eventually, I got the plastic set and the backglass should be done ?.

According to Ron Webb, with the permission of Gottlieb Development LLC, another run of Sing Along backglasses will be made sometime in 2016. Still waiting to hear back from the screeners on when they can schedule it.

I vote for C37. Ive got the game but it has a trashed pf.

i was the one who got lee rolling on the sing along plastics. wade was doing the pf at the time. my plastics were bad. my bg was mint so that wasn't an issue. ron webb had already done the bg so it could be done again. and now is.
i think if we get wade to do a pf that doesn't have plastics yet. we could get lee to do them. the bg is the harder part to get done.

i would pony up 600 for a c37 pf even though it is not one of my favorites. with a new pf and bg and plastic set it would be a easy sell when the time comes to move it out.

Atlantis all the way...C-37 is fun to look at but it is very overrated and in my opinion waaaaaaaay too easy. C-37 wouldn't last a month in my collection without being sold. Atlantis is beautiful all the way around and has the best rule set IMHO for a 70's Gottlieb game. It beats out El Dorado (by a mile...again my opinion) and edges out Abra-Ca-Dabra. Get the Atlantis. The only reason I don't pony up for one is my interests are in 60's Gottlieb machines and Bally zipper flipper games.

Again...buy the Atlantis.

He's buying both.......

Personally I like the gameplay on both about equal. Atlantis has more intricate rules, but I also like the unique rules in C37 in 5-ball mode. They might both have the same bagatelle setup, but the way they use them is different. The games are different enough to me to have both. Guests and non-pinheads definitely like C37 better. If I had to get rid of one of them, it would be Atlantis. Fortunately I don't have to get rid of either at this point!

Question on that protector.

Do you have to remove the bagatelle wireforms? Sure looks like it. There are also pins above two of the wireforms in the bagatelle, and pins in the return lane on the right flipper, and of course in the corners of the outlanes?

I don't really want to be removing those wireforms if I don't have to do it. Not necessarily a hard job but things can go wrong.

Interesting idea though.

If the times comes for you to get rid of Atlantis, please PM me!!!

Well, at least for Atlantis you can have it all once Wade gets going, as PBR has the plastics and bgresto the glass.

Lee and Gordon have the plastics for ACD and Ron Webb has the glass. Only need the playfield. And the game. And I'm taking care of that part of it this weekend.

This thread makes me think about getting an Atlantis but the fact it has 3 inch flippers is a caveat because I'm more of a 2 inch flipper guy.

If I did decide to get a 3 inch flipper game then which would you choose...

Atlantis or El Dorado?

Bruce

For the theme it's easy - Atlantis (for me). However, El Dorado is 'the best' take on that layout since the drops actually reset and you aren't left with nothing to do really. Both.

that is another thread in itself!!!
that is hard than Atlantis vs c37

Atlantis' drops reset.

el do has both 2" and 3" flippers and I like chasing the special
atlantis has the better rule set and better art package
I would be a hard choice that I am glad I don't have to make

The pins stayed when I did Abra Ca Dabra, but the wire guides have to be removed for the install. They are pretty easy to remove with a pry bar and some thick cardboard to protect the playfield. I can't see the danger unless the playfield is clear coated - in which case the protector is not needed.

We are finally getting some cool, dry weather here so I should be able to stencil the Atlantis cabinet this week and put the protector in during the reassembly.

Don't hold your breath. After all the work to stencil it, I won't be selling any time soon.

Easy for me. Atlantis all day long. I'm not in love with El Dorado. For me, it's an "OK" game.

Marcus

Well, "Pong" came out in '72. I believe that was the first to have impact in the arcades. In the college-town arcade I frequented back in the day, there were always 4+ at the Pong when I walked through the front door.

To clarify,

I was pointing out that El Dorado reset versus the other versions of that table that are 2/4 player like Target Alpha.

bgresto is OK when there's no other option, but for combining with a repro playfield and true repro plastics, for me it would need to be a silkscreened glass like Ron or Shay have produced.

I've removed them before and I know it's not that bad a job, but you never know prying something out of the playfield can go wrong.

If I was going to stay with my current playfield long term I'd consider it, but since I'm probably not going to do that, I won't. Thanks for the info though.

Well, I knew that would be a reply. And I understand it. But for some reason, despite the obvious popularity of this game, neither has done one. I don't pretend to know why. Maybe this glass just had better staying power? Mine is extremely nice, just two very small flakes in the fish above the score reels.

I would also say that Steve at bgresto is constantly working to tweak and improve his product. I've had a great experience with Ron Webb's glasses. Never bought a Shay glass but I have a friend who has and his experience hasn't been so positive. Color matching issues there.

Ron did Atlantis, and it's currently listed on his website.

I've had several of both Ron and Shay's. No complaints here.

LOL, don't know how I missed that one. Bad Monday I guess.

All I can tell you is I saw the two glasses he bought from Shay and they weren't even close. Now, maybe I'm too picky, but generally I'm not, but those glasses had colors that just weren't at all close.

Not that I wouldn't try it but I find Centigrade 37 is easier on 3 ball. It's like they overcompensated for only 3 balls.

Still you have two fun games there.

i made my c37 3 ball with 5 ball rules, it was much harder

good point. Sometimes, it is just a properly placed jumper to trip game over at the end of the third ball while leaving the Jones plug in the 5 ball position to keep the harder rules programming.

I usually how 3 ball rules join features on the playfield diminishing the original design.

Nah, PBR has them.

told ya so

it works good on high hand also. makes a bit better with 5 balls and all targets down high hand is a snooze fest.
3 balls 5 ball rules makes it better. wish you could mod the drops without so much effort...

yeah, old thread.
i can't unsee the fact that the dude on the atlantis backglass has child bearing hips. looks like a female from that narrow waist on down.

Kinda agree. Still one of my favorite games.

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